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Workers assemble 787 Dreamliners in January at the Boeing factory in Everett.
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Boeing employees leave for the parking lot during the afternoon shift change at the Everett, Wash. plant on Wednesday October 28, 2009. On Wednesday Boeing announced that the company has chosen North Charleston, S.C. for the location of a second assembly line for the 787 Dreamliner. (AP Photo/The Herald, Heidi Hoffman)
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Boeing employees work on an aft fuselage for the 787 Dreamliner inside the North Charleston, S.C., facility Wednesday Oct. 28, 2009. Boeing officials said Wednesday that it would open a second assembly plant in North Charleston for its 787. (AP Photo/Mic Smith)
 
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Published: Thursday, October 29, 2009

Why Everett lost out on Boeing's second 787 line

Tax breaks, concessions weren't enough for Boeing

EVERETT — In the end, it just wasn't enough.

A long-term, no-strike offer from the union. A local training center. More than $3 billion in state tax incentives passed three years ago.

Despite efforts by Washington lawmakers and the Machinists union, the Boeing Co. announced Wednesday that it will put a second 787 assembly line in Charleston, S.C., nearly 3,000 miles away from the company's original 787 site in Everett.

The second line will join with the first in Everett to fill the 840 orders for the Dreamliner, Boeing's first all-new jet in a decade. The decision sparked concern about the company's future in Washington state.

“I know this decision may be of concern to some in the Puget Sound, and I ask everyone to focus on the larger picture,” said Jim Albaugh, president of Boeing Commercial Airplanes, in a message to workers. “We are adding jobs in South Carolina, not taking them away from the Puget Sound.”

Albaugh's words did little to soothe the sore feelings of Washington politicians and Boeing workers, who had held out hope that an agreement between Boeing and Machinists union leaders could be reached to convince the jet maker to consolidate its 787 assembly work here.

“We had an opportunity today to take a step toward work-force stability and a win for Boeing, our workers, and the state of Washington,” said Sen. Patty Murray, who asked Boeing and the Machinists on Wednesday morning to continue talks. “I am disappointed that Boeing cut off negotiations and passed on a final chance to make this happen.”

The labor factor

Boeing's Chief Executive Jim McNerney made it clear last week that the company's decision between Charleston and Everett depended largely on talks with its Machinists union. McNerney called labor strikes, notably the Machinists' 57-day work stoppage last fall, very damaging for the company. On Wednesday, local Machinists president Tom Wroblewski said the union offered the company the very thing McNerney said was needed: long-term labor security.

“We did offer Boeing a 10-year contract, and even offered to go longer than that. And when we did, they seemed stunned and stopped talking,” Wroblewski said.

He called the talks with Boeing a “sham,” saying the company used the union to get more tax incentives from South Carolina. That state's Legislature, in a special session Wednesday, passed $170 million in tax incentives aimed at Boeing.

But a long-term, no-strike agreement wasn't the only key factor in Boeing's decision, said Tim Healy, spokesman for the company. Boeing also needs to improve its competitiveness. And cutting costs doesn't come simply from state tax incentives.

Boeing wasn't asking for adjustments in its current contract with the Machinists, which runs through 2012, Healy said.

But, if the two had agreed to extend the contract, Boeing was looking for changes in health care, pension, wages and similar areas. For instance, Boeing wanted to see the guaranteed annual wage increase reduced to roughly 2.5 percent; the Machinists asked for 3.5 percent. Although the Machinists agreed to cost-sharing for health care, the union wasn't willing to do so until 2018, not soon enough for Boeing's liking.

The Machinists wanted guarantees from Boeing that it would locate production for its next all-new jet in the Puget Sound region, Healy said. Boeing balked.

From the Machinists' perspective, Boeing wasn't even willing to guarantee the second 787 line in exchange for a long-term contract. Instead, he said the company kept the union guessing about what it really wanted.

“We found ourselves bargaining with ourselves,” Wroblewski said.

Local reaction

Despite Boeing's guarantee that its decision doesn't mean job cuts here, local lawmakers and residents believe differently. Everett Mayor Ray Stephanson called Boeing's Charleston pick disappointing.

“This decision will have an adverse impact on many loyal and dedicated workers, suppliers and subcontractors here in Puget Sound,” Stephanson said.

In downtown Everett on Wednesday afternoon, most people said they are unhappy about Boeing's choice of Charleston for its second 787 assembly line.

“It's a shame. They're all set up here,” said Dustin Rose of Everett. “Having that line would have meant more local jobs. A lot of people here need jobs.”

His sister, Kristina Rose, also of Everett, said she has been expecting Boeing to begin its departure from Snohomish County for awhile.

“They've threatened the county and the state before,” she said. “We fixed the freeway for them. Our community has tried to help Boeing.”

Boeing's troubles with the unions are to blame, said Susan Patton of Snohomish.

“I'm a union member,” Patton said. “But the union screwed this up.”

Patty Blair, 61, of Everett, was drinking a vodka and cranberry juice at the 747 Inn after her shift at the Everett Boeing plant on Wednesday afternoon. She was mad that Boeing management placed the blame on the union for its decision to relocate, saying she believed the decision was made long ago.

“I was hoping it would go our way and stay here,” said Blair, who works in parts at the plant. “I think it's a mistake on Boeing's part – one of the other mistakes with the 787.”

The right decision?

Because of problems with Boeing's global supply chain and hiccups in the 787 production process, the company is running more than two years behind schedule on the 787, the first jet made with a majority of parts from composite materials. The company has yet to take the 787 on its first flight, but officials say that will happen by year's end.

Boeing said it needs a second production line in order to meet its goal of turning out 10 787s monthly. Its Charleston factory is expected to produce three Dreamliners each month while Everett workers will churn out seven monthly.

But both analysts and Boeing's unions have said putting the second line in Charleston is a risky move. Local analyst Scott Hamilton, with Leeham Co., believes it could take years for the second line in Charleston to work, given Boeing's troubles with the jet so far. Hamilton also worries that the decision would cause further animosity with its workers here.

Ray Goforth, executive director with the Society of Professional Engineering Employees in Aerospace, said Boeing had no credible business case for its decision.

“We are astounded that Boeing has chosen to compound the problems of the 787 program by further fragmenting the supply chain,” he said.

Herald reporters Gale Fiege and Andy Rathbun contributed to this report.



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The Union and the Workers
wow I ques the next best thing to do is go down to south Carolina and work against what ever laws their maybe against unions to try and unionize. Now that would make boeing mad. Only problem is the general opinion on Unions on the east coast is not a good one, based all on the fact that their laborer organizations basis was organized crime. Unions here are generally good, not so with the Machinist. They have always been one of the weaker unions.
Lizzy H | Nov 19, 2009 10:47 am | 0 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
"JUST SAY NO I WONT GO"
Why would anybody volunteer to go to SC to help them? Boeing chose them over us so let see if they can figure it out with out us. "JUST SAY NO I WONT GO" They can not make you go.
todd christensen | Oct 30, 2009 6:10 pm | 0 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
Pull all their WA tax incentives
What needs to happen immediately is for the state to rescind all the tax breaks they are giving Boing.
They took them and moved all their main offices to Chigago and now this.
This state needs to balance our budget and making Boing collect and pay sales tax on their products and pay full property taxes on everything they own in this state would help..Boing is going to either get all their labor for starvation wages or they will leave completely.
It is time to get every dollar we can from them before this happens...No more nice guy from this state.

Rich Kruml | Oct 29, 2009 9:15 am | 2 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
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Boeing wants to blame the union for everything. They say they are behind because of the strike. They were way behind schedule before the strike ever happened. And now this...the union offered Boeing exactly what they wanted, a 10 year no strike contract and when the union agreed and called Boeings bluff, they walked. Boeing had their minds made up long ago that they were going to build in SC, so for Susan Patton to say the union screwed up, wake up lady! Boeing screwed it all up, not the union. But Boeing will continue to blame the union for everything that is wrong. I am not a union member but I fully support the union. The union should all walk out right now and strike and see how far that gets Boeing.
islandgirl | Oct 29, 2009 7:06 am | 2 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
Boeing
Really us that work at Boeing see the problem on a daily basis, others just speculate. Problems started with acquisition of Douglas and the failed leadership coming from Douglas to Boeing. Good old Harry S. and his following took huge amounts of stock and perks. Whose way of doing business sunk Douglas, and now they are working on doing the same to Boeing. The 787 and its problems should reflect a change should be addressed by share holders. WAKE UP
dennis nelson | Oct 29, 2009 9:04 am | 1 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
Surprise, surprise
This should be a lesson. When times get tough, you DON'T go on strike. You can't keep demanding more and more, when the economy can't support it. You cut back, you make sacrifices, you do what you have to do until things turn around, thankful for at least having a job with benefits. Between the strikes and this states' history of running out businesses, you are now facing joining the ranks of those in the unemployment lines.
Welcome to the liberal way of life. Suck the well dry and then move on to steal from those who are still doing well. When that well runs dry, you'll have to move to China to get a job.
Go unions! You just cut your nose off to spite your face. No wonder no one wants to work a union shop anymore. I'd rather scrub floors for $7 an hour than work under a union again!

hope floats | Oct 29, 2009 11:44 pm | 0 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
What's in a name?
So now what will they call the "Future of Flight" tour center over at Paine Field? I think that keeping the name as it is would be somewhat disingenuous to say the least.
Mojojojo | Oct 29, 2009 10:25 pm | 0 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
1968 Again?
I am a local business owner that suffered everytime Boeing went on strike. This will be a sad day for Boeing workers and the businesses they supported but not surprising. This has been coming for a long time. It's too bad the workers didn't realize it. This has happened over and over again with the steel industry and auto industry but the workers and the unions let it happen. I have been in business for 32 years and was never at anytime given a guarantee. The unions and the workers got what they wanted and now they have "gotten" themselves out of a secure job. One of my best friends that worked there for 17 years saw it coming 5 years ago and left for private industry. He has a job and doing very well.
Greed and fat union officials sent the plane assembly to another state. You can point fingers all day long at WA State, but, they gave you a lot!
I know we will suffer together.

Anthony Ramirez | Oct 29, 2009 9:09 pm | 0 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
Sense of Entitlement just knocked off the shoulder
I have lived in WA state for a decade. Although I appreciate (in theory) the strength and confidence that strong unions can bring, I must chuckle at the attitudes of some who are threatening Boeing or hate them now.

What a massive sense of self entitlement some people have. Boeing did NOT have to operate just in this state. The bravado is nauseating. I have contracted at Boeing and witnessed very spoiled, lazy workers who hid behind unions. I also witnessed good people who were blessed to have a great job and didn't want to lose it. Boeing has been a great employer. They have also suffered from a work force that was "poisoned" by some union voices to always have a greedy knife at Boeings throat. To be fair, I also noticed that UPS has a super strong union that gets the workers perks that would be unheard of elsewhere in the country. But that can be a problem because there gets to be a time where those perks get viewed as REQUIREMENTS or else work slow downs occur. Boeing workers were warned not to slow down work. FOR YEARS. The strike at any cost voice is akin to some Scientology cult. And that voice caused severe damage to Boeings line.

Boeing has every right to open a plant elsewhere.

I remember watching with my own eyes as a former CEO said that Boeing had---

"A consistently disappointing and below average work force"

We could argue that, but I would add that it has also become very spoiled. Many companies open plants in different areas. If Boeing is doing it more and more then the workers here, instead of threatening strikes of putting down other states should ask themselves why. As someone who moved here from a different state I can tell you that a good deal of them are arrogant, spoiled people who threaten strikes whenever they don't get their way. They are jealous whenever Boeing has a good year and want bigger and bigger shares. The state and Boeing have seen this treadmill go up and up for years and years.

Now workers are threatening a retaliation strike in 2010? Go for it. Boeing just might make that second line in SC the ONLY LINE. And it will be because of bravado and a massive sense of self entitlement that too many have picked up.

A little appreciation and humbleness would go a long way. Instead it is sour grapes and more threats. Again, spoiled and entitlement and people cry when someone finally cuts off the supply.

Everyone else saw this coming. Everyone. Keep up the bravado and you will lose the whole thing.

J Moore | Oct 29, 2009 6:47 pm | 0 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
apologies to Bob Dylan
How many times can a man walk out
Before his job goes away?

The answer, my son, is down in Charleston.
The answer is down in Charleston...

Steven Smith | Oct 29, 2009 3:24 pm | 0 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
Boeing Gripes
Just an FYI, take a look at what the folks in SC have to say about it... Note the comments at the end of the article. http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2009/oct/29/lawmakers-offered-lure-worth-450m/
Tawnya McCallum | Oct 29, 2009 3:18 pm | 0 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
Boeing moved Pueblo, CO manufacturing facility to Alabama
This isn't the first move.
Back in 2003, Boeing moved it's manufacturing facility for the Delta II/IV rockets from Pueblo, CO to Decatur, AL. One year later, all first stage boosters were manufactured in Alabama. Florida was a front runner to get the location. It made since to build them in Florida since there is a vacant manufacturing facility a couple miles away from Cape Canaveral where the old cruise missiles were built (Titusville, FL). But the Florida state goverment was too slow to move. Alabama's legistlature held an emergency session over a weekend and moved quick and presented a package to Boeing, beating Florida to the punch. Ref:
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/article-1G1-100568987/boeing-moving-delta-launch.html

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4191/is_20030301/ai_n10016481/?tag=content;col1

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5553/is_200409/ai_n22241961/?tag=content;col1

Lake Stevens | Oct 29, 2009 1:09 pm | 0 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
Arrgh--Headline writers
Everett didn't lose the second 787 line, it was just the third one going to Charleston.

The 767 line will be converted to make 787-9 to get to rate. 2/3 of the plaes will still be made in Everett!

The B will soon learn about what $14 an hour labor does for ya. Think I should sell my stock?

The Geezer has spaketh

The Geezer | Oct 29, 2009 11:16 am | 0 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
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The big blame game is back...who did what and who did not.Plain and simple boeing had enough of all the games by bad poker players (machinists prime example).Boeing needs to do what they need to do.
It's all water under the bridge now. When will people learn not to do stupid things in hard times,such as striking. Hellooooooooooooo anybody in there?? It is what it is and thats all there is.

dee None | Oct 29, 2009 11:07 am | 0 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
Pay Back Time
Boeing was very upset at the end of the last (stupid) strike. They gave warnings of what they planned to do. You now see what they had planned; and in the works for sometime. This decsion was made long before these negoiations took place. The machinists and their silly strikes gave Boeing motivation to move some of the production to gurantee their client's they can still deliver planes; even if the silly machinists union decides to strike again.

The local machinists are playing poker and bluffed one too many times. Glad to see Boeing called their bluff. These silly strikes need to end! No one wins in a strike, the client's are the loosers.

This is called smart business and "Payback"

Phillip Day | Oct 29, 2009 8:11 am | 1 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
Boeing will never leave???
I think it is funny how the political leaders of this state say they tried everything they could to keep Boeing's 2nd 787 line here is Everett. The problem is they have been sticking it to Boeing for the last 20 years!!! This state is a very hostile place to do business!! If you read the statement from Boeing... they said they were going to break ground in a couple of weeks here in this state you might be lucky to start building in a couple of years with all of the impact studies and then all of the fines (fees) that would have to be paid to win the favor of those voting on the project. That is how business has been run in this state for 20 years or more!!
Nolan Foss | Oct 29, 2009 5:47 am | 0 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal
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Why? Because there hasn't been decent leadership since they let Mulally slip out of their grasp. The left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing, and the right hand continues to spread the resources way too thin.

They may well be slitting their own throats, but bottom line is that cheapest is not always better. We're already getting crappy assemblies, panels and skins out of Charleston w/ that workforce they believe is so easily trained and will become highly skilled...what has changed except for the name on the factory door down there? They have no greater ability, just cheaper labor.

Best of luck to us all. The communities are the ones that suffer in the end. Once they complete the tear down of the 787 program in Everett, it will only be a matter of time before they head to greener pastures for their other lines and when it becomes less profitable for Charleston, they'll head to China. The board of directors and stockholders should have shed McNerney long ago, before his flawed management plan puts this company on the ropes as well.

CC At the Big B | Oct 29, 2009 12:51 am | 1 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal

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