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<< Previous   of   Next >> (click to enlarge) Former Everett resident Mitchell Warriner lives with his fiance Tiare in Oregon. He is writing a book about the assassination of President Kennedy.   ADVERTISEMENT   CONTACT THE HERALD Robert Frank, City Editor frank@heraldnet.com   Published: Monday, November 9, 2009 Digging into JFK’s death remains a lifelong passion By Kristi O'Harran, Herald Columnist Persistent passion is something to behold. I wrote about Mitchell Warriner 10 years ago, when he was 16, and deeply concerned about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. It wasn’t a phase. He plans to go to law school and is writing a book, “The Consequence of Truth: A Study Into the Investigation of Jim Garrison and the Trial of Clay Shaw,” about an assassination investigation by a New Orleans district attorney. “Jim Garrison was later portrayed in Oliver Stone’s film ‘JFK’ by Kevin Costner,” Warriner said. “I have never lost my interest into what occurred nearly 46 years ago, which I still maintain was a major pivotal turning point in our American history.” He wasn’t even alive when us older folks watched television for four straight days after our president was murdered. Warriner continues to care because the assassination affected the whole world, he said. “It all began when those shots ripped apart our president’s head, and then two days later his accused assassin is killed on national television,” said Warriner, who now lives in Beaverton, Ore. “I must ask what kind of a democracy this is when the government continues to conceal vital evidence regarding our president’s death under the guise of national security.” His family moved from Everett, and Warriner graduated from high school in Astoria, Ore. He joined the Army National Guard after high school and served for eight years including duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. Warriner is engaged to Tiare Sider and is helping raise Kailea, 11, whose father died when she was 3 years old. Warriner and Sider have a daughter, Mikala, born in 2005. Ten years ago, I wrote about his telephone chats with former President Gerald Ford. They spoke on the phone twice, after Warriner sent Ford a letter about Ford’s work on the Warren Commission that investigated the 1963 assassination. “I was the person who answered the phone,” said Kelley Hansen, Warriner’s mother. “I asked if he realized that he was asking for a child. He stated that yes, he was aware of Mitchell’s age. He went on to say that he was so impressed that a youngster would have such an interest in politics, that he felt it was his duty to continue to inspire young Mitchell.” The pair had rather heated conversations, Warriner said. Warriner didn’t believe Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone shooter in Dallas, Texas. While researching the case, he requested top secret documents through the Freedom of Information Act. Word spread about his intense interest. The CIA, FBI and Office of Naval Intelligence called his Everett home. When the agencies called, his mother ran interference. The inquisitive boy was 10 years old. “In elementary school, while the other kids were getting children’s books at the library, I was getting thick books about the presidents,” the young man said. “I asked ‘Who got assassinated?’ I got kind of interested.” When he finishes law school, he may move to Washington D.C., Warriner said, to make a difference. He will continue the work of his life. “We as Americans deserve to know the truth,” he said. “Don’t take the government’s verdict on everything.” He is known to quote author Ella Wheeler Wilcox who said “To sin by silence while others doth protest makes cowards out of men.” He does not sit idly. “I speak loudly because I feel that we as Americans deserve to know the truth. Not just about the assassination of President Kennedy, but about Watergate, Iran-Contra, 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, everything.” His mother said she isn’t surprised that her son is still passionate about the assassination. “Mitchell firmly believes there was a conspiracy to kill JFK,” Hansen said. “He also believes that there are still many unanswered questions regarding the assassination.” She said any book her son writes about the assassination will be worth reading. It will be penned by a passionate researcher. Kristi O’Harran: 425-339-3451, oharran@heraldnet.com. READER COMMENTS Log in or register to post new comment | Log out Reply to Tom Lowry I must respond to the comment posted by Mr. Tom Lowry. First and foremost, I am not writing a "conspiracy book for profit," rather a historical perspective of a man who tried to get to the bottom of the truth, and put his entire career and life on the line for something that he truly believed in. In recent years, it has been proven that Clay Shaw was indeed connected with the CIA, and that the federal government was doing everything it could to torpedo Garrison's investigation and his case against Shaw. If his case were to be brought to a jury nowadays, I guarantee a conviction. The case was iron-clad. However, garrison did not have access to the documents and information that has become available only in recent years with the help of the ARRB. And why would Garrison be seeking personal advancement in life by questioning the federal government? If he was seeking a higher public office, I assure you that he would not have gotten involved with the Kennedy assassination. Nobody has a chance when you question and accuse the government in the manner that he did. I am sure that anybody in the assassination research community would agree that a book about Jim Garrison will surely not appear on the New York Times bestseller list, because the general mainstream media would much rather have a book by Gerald Posner (which you used a source) or Vincent Bugliosi's monumental tomb (1612 pages + a CD Rom of another 900 some odd pages, so heavy it could kill a small dog if dropped on it) of lies in his recent Reclaiming History. Another source that you use is John McAdams, who I believe has been thoroughly discredited most recently on Black Op Radio by author Jim DiEugenio. (See blackopradio.com archives, and listen to the debate between DiEugenio and McAdams). 1. Now, you stated that Garrison suffered from "severe and disabling psychoneurosis..." What Garrison suffered from was what is now called post traumatic stress syndrome, and the Army found no signs of pathologic personality, rather he was found to be "introverted" and "anti-social," and a "moderate degree of neurasthenia or a hypochondriasis" caused by a "over-solicitous mother" (Medical Report by 1st Lt. Marshall Fowler and see FBI document 89-69-3250, AF 124-10251-10247, both documents in my possession). Using Garrison's medical record has long been a tactic by critics, but they fail to mention that this was shortly after World War II when Garrison was getting ready to be sent to Korea. Garrison had already been a pilot flying "grasshoppers" in Germany which flew toward the enemy as closely as possible until he was shot at. Garrison also was among the liberators of Dachau, and was haunted by what he had seen. Talk to any man who has seen combat, and I assure you that a majority of them have suffered the same syndrome as Garrison. Now, exactly, what does this have to do with the investigation of Jim Garrison? This is only used as a tool to do a hatchet-job on Garrison. 2. Oliver Stone's movie "JFK" was just that: a movie. But he certainly went a lot further to the truth then the Warren Commission. Now the "cloud of smoke" scenario included in the film was drawn off of the statements and testimony of witnesses, and all these statements can be found in, brace yourself everybody: THE WARREN COMMISSION REPORT and accompanying 26 volumes. (i.e. witnesses: S.M. Holland, O.V. Campbell, Joseph Smith.)I recommend Oliver Stone and Zachary Sklar's book "JFK: The Book of the Film" which details and sources every scene from the movie. 3. The "magic bullet" theory has been proven to be anatomically impossible. Not only is it false, it is a proven lie. Just go to the final chapter of this link: http://www.und.edu/org/jfkconference/, which speaks for itself. Professor Jim Fetzer and Dr. David W. Mantik have already tore apart this issue, so much that it takes the stance of humpty-dumpty, the thesis can never be put back together again. Admiral Burkley, JFK's personal physician composed a death certificate on JFK, which said he had been “struck in the head” by one shot and that “a second wound occurred at the posterior back at about the level of the third thoracic vertebra.”(Which turns out to be approximately 5 1/2 inches below the collar to the right of the spinal column.) He added that the head wound involved “evisceration of the right hemisphere of the brain.” My friend (sarcastically) Gerald Ford had the backwound changed to the base of the back of the neck, thus granting the fairy tale that one bullet killed the President. Since he admitted that it had been changed, how do you explain the "magic bullet theory"? It sounds like you have a little bit more research to do Mr. Lowry. Perhaps, I recommend the entire 26 volumes of hearings and exhibits, and just compare it to what has been written in the main report, and tell me if it adds up! On top of that, go through the mountain of documents that have been released, and then come back and tell me that I am wrong! If Lee Harvey Oswald killed President Kennedy, then I must have been the one to murder President Lincoln. Mitchell Warriner | Nov 11, 2009 11:14 pm | 1 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal Rebuttal of some of the more outlandish claims made by Mitchell ! [My reply bold face and bracketed] Part 1 Jim Garrison : Mr. Mitchell Warriner : "a historical perspective of a man who tried to get to the bottom of the truth, and put his entire career and life on the line for something that he truly believed in" This is almost breathtaking in it's absurdity , even taking into account that his belief without proof is proof of nothing but his opinion , which in turn is no proof of anything at all . And if your thesis is correct and true his own investigators that commented on him are calling him a liar ! : .John * : "Garrison's entire case was based on the belief that Clay Shaw, using the alias "Clay Bertrand" conspired to kill Kennedy" Garrison's chief investigator, Lou Ivon wrote after canvasing the city for Bertrand : "The information I received was negative results" Garrison's Assistant DA Andrew "Moo-Moo" Sciambra : He admitted to author Edward Jay Epstein that he failed to find any "Bertrand." See Epstein's The Assassination Chronicles (New York, 1992), p. 196. : Needless to say Garrison buried the results and went ahead in his Soviet Style Show Trial . http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/garrison.htm .John : How Big a Conspiracy? Sound logic says that any conspiracy theory, to be credible, must include only a limited number of people ... the list of all the groups and individuals he implicated is pretty long" lame and laughable : http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/suspects.htm IOW's if you have 50 individuals that are implicated with the evidence equal for all 50 as being guilty you have evidence that's no good at all **. I find it typical of Conspiracy Theorists to not know that you don't do things backasswards by exculpating the guilty in order to incriminate the innocent . This is one of the main reasons we have a list of 'The Men Who Didn't Kill Kennedy' *** and it's reached to the Moon . Well you ask , that's the opposition's story . OK lets take a look at what fellow conspiracists say about 'Big Jimbo' : David Lifton (Best Evidence) brought forth Kerry Thornley , a fellow Oswald Marine buddy to help with Garrison's case . Nutcase Garrison almost immediately tried to arrest him and thought he was a Oswald look alike . Shocked Lifton got him out of town asap , away from the maniacal maniac of misplaced malpractice and commented later : "I think its ugly when the power of the state is arrayed against an innocent man — and the witchhunt that took place in New Orleans back in 1967-69 will always remain exactly that : an ugly incident in the annals of jurisprudence" . For the entire scoop : Is Jim Garrison Out of His Mind by David Lifton ? : http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/lifton1.htm Patricia Lambert **** has written the definative debunking of Garrison's neurological fiasco in a excellent book with fine scholarship called : 'False Witness'. Mr. Mitchell Warriner might take heed to study her book first and the Bible second for he's attempting to disobey one of the Lords most important Commandments : "Thou Shall Not Bear 'False Witness' Against Thy Neighbor" . While in the neighborhood I say , I must comment on Garrison's intuative ability's to be able see hidden assassin's 100's of miles away behind a picket fence in Dealey Plaza but not being able to see that Carlos Marcellos , one of the biggest Mafia leaders in the United States , was working right under his own nose in New Orleans . He denied his existence his entire life IMO to squeeze Marcellos for a extra tasty profit which happened to be a million dollar 'Palacial House' purchased after the trial from a Marcellos contractor front man for the poultry sum of $35,000 . Emphasis on the con . While on the subject of con's and bribery , and not knowing ones local history **** also , Garrison was on the take from Marcellos operations in New Orleans , the city that gave us Huey Long . I trust Mr. Mitchell Warriner doesn't have a short memory , do you remember Huey Long Mitchell , the closest this country ever got to having a dictator ? They play it nice and loose in that town and most would agree that Garrison wasn't satisfied with the kickbacks he was receiving from Marcellos operations . The question has now been answered on why he drug David Ferrie (Marcellos pilot) into the fray (Make Marcellos sweat it out). He died early on , but that didn't stop Garrison from switching gears , his conclusion of conspiracy could be fashioned to fit any scenario he so pleased . Closet homosexual Clay Shaw would be his next target . I can see this is going to take several posts , the indictment against Garrison is already fool-proof , to everyone except Mitchell who has apparently read nothing but conspiracy novels all his life : "In recent years, it has been proven that Clay Shaw was indeed connected with the CIA" Clay Shaw for the N.O. International Trade Mart , like 1000's of other people who travelled behind the Iron Curtain , had to fill out a standard CIA Form , upon return to this country , that requested info. on whether he had been contacted by any (KGB) enemy agents and asked to spy for them . This no doubt makes him a CIA agent . Non-sense ! Ever notice how it takes a billion pages to debunk conspiracy non-sense ? Whats worse is attempting to rehash old worn out conspiracy non-sense . Mr. Mitchell Warriner IMO is not in any position , way shape or form to even start writing a book on the Garrison case for he's 'Clueless in New Orlean's' and has been apparently sleeping when conspiracy was debunked as Tall-Tales long ago . I don't believe this will deter him , his absurdity's are only exceeded by his state of denial . Tom Lowry cdddraftsman@yahoo.com Keynotes : * .John refer's to John McAdam's : http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm ** The jury agree's with this assessment taking 50 min. to deliberate . This includes a buffet lunch and bathroom breaks . Garrison distances himself early , shows up twice , once in the beginning and once at the end of the trial . Garrison proceed's to persecute Clay Shaw further (For pergury) until by Court Order he is prevented from harrassing an innocent victim of his "disabling psychoneurosis" : http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/shaw4.htm or as .John puts it : "Does many suspects in the assassnation mean that some of them must have conspired killing JFK ? Or does it indicate the weakness of Conspiracy Theory's? In real-world criminal investigations having literally dozens of suspects is an indication that the probe is in very deep and serious trouble. The evidence isn't converging to point to one suspect or a few suspects who may have conspired. The evidence against one suspect is about as good as the evidence against any other : Which means it's no good at all". *** Mr. Mitchell Warriner will stand in good steed I trust with fellow CTer Nigel Turner (TMWKK) and his denial syndrome . After accusing three individuals of being 'Corsican Hit Men' , reporters found one named Pironti , then a 80ish frail retiree living in France who denied the allegations by blinking unbelievability and commenting : "The only thing I know about Dallas is what I watch on the TV series with Mr. JR Ewing" . Asked why he (Turner) didn't interview Pironti before making the allegations he didn't blink an eye , looked reporters straight in the face , and with a seriousness akin to Garrison's outragious belief for the safety of his own person responded : "I thought it would be too dangerous". Teehehehehehe ! What a hooter ! If it wasn't for moments like this of extreme side splitting laughter at CTer's who propose the incredibly lame , I would get out of debunking JFK Conspiracy myths completely and here's a amplification on these thoughts : "The intellectual habits of the conspiracy researchers" : http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bethell.htm **** While on the subject of history Dave Powers commented that JFK ***** reveiled to him that he never even knew about the 'Great Depression' until he read about it in a high school text book . Someone pinch me ... that's depressing , so to speak . ***** More tasty tidbits ploinked from the cherry tree's of Dealey Plaza : JFK launched his political career on the basis of being a 'War Hero' ? Really ? Yes really . Amazing until I checked and it turns out that he remains famous in the US Navy ... gulp ... for being the only skipper to have his PT Boat command rammed and sunk by an Enemy Destroyer in the entire Pacific Campaign of WW 2 . What I really wish is that if hoaxers ****** are going to make someone into what they never were in reality , they should choose a person worthy of this honor . But what do I know about history , I lived through the assassination and was studying this case by the mid 1960's ? ****** I wouldn't want to classify Mitchell as a hoaxer before he's even published his book , but criminal behavior on Garrison's part is no laughing matter . Mitchell agree's he had some sort of mental incapacity . This alone would preclude anyone but professionals that deal in these kinds of extreme cases to comment on them . That's the bottom line , amatuers commenting on subjects they're unqualified to render judgment upon which in turn adds to the pile that constitutes conspiracy literature as the largest single mass body of fraudulent work ever created on any one given subject . Mitchell's time would be better spent finding a way of keeping JFK's memory alive that didn't postulate divergent testimony and evidence as proof of a conspiracy that even honest left wing liberal historians ******* have now dismissed as being rubbish . ******* Want proof ? : Unlike reputable historians , (Reeves , Reaves , Kranoff , when you look inside any conspiracy book for aknowledgements , credits , resource pages that explain where they started their research from , who proof read and made suggestions for improvements etc..... Like in Jim Garrison's book : 'On the Trail of the Assassin's', it's totally nonexistent ! Sure fire sign that it's a creation "out of his mind" and a attempt to perpetrate a JFK Assassination Tragedy Conspiracy Hoax . Put that on your check list Mitchell . Without credible historical backup (And I don't mean research based upon fellow CTer's) you're going to be pegged as a hoaxer , unworthy of even scorn or publication . Maybe by writing about Garrison you can prove conspiracy's happen after all ? Wink wink , nod nod :-( tom lowry | Nov 14, 2009 3:17 pm | 0 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal (No heading) This subject would of been topical 20 years ago in the hayday when 'The Great JFK Assassination Tragedy Conspiracy Hoaxing of America' was in full swing and people actually bought conspiracy literature . Being today and most people too embarrassed to admit they were conned it has become a 'Political Abstraction' not worthy of another line , let alone a book on Jim Garrison * who trampled on the rights of Clay Shaw by persecuting him , for personal profit and self aggrandizement : http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/garrison.htm That Oliver Stone , Shaws Hollywood prosecutor , had 100 verifiable 'Big Whoppers' in the movie 'JFK' aside : http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jfkmovie.htm that movie can be aptly summed up in one example : "Oliver Stone could not find a rifle that would emit the necessary 'cloud of smoke' ** when fired from the grassy knoll , and so he resorted to having a special-effects man blow smoke from a bellows . Many consider this an appropriate metaphor for the entire movie" *** . Mr. Mitchell Warriner I hope and pray for him best wishes , but as far as writing another conspiracy book for profit , conspiracy literature already constitutes the largest body of fraudulent work **** ever created on one single subject , which in turn has caused the largest mass failure in thinking ever recorded by mankind . IMO I don't think that adding to that Mt. Everest would serve anyone any good at this late date . Comments ? Tom Lowry cdddraftsman@yahoo.com Keynotes : * Clinical Psychopathology? In 1952, Jim Garrison was relieved of duty in the National Guard. Doctors at the Brooke Army Hospital in Texas diagnosed him as suffering from a "severe and disabling psychoneurosis" which "interfered with his social and professional adjustment to a marked degree." The evaluation further said that Garrison "is considered totally incapacitated from the standpoint of military duty and moderately incapacitated in civilian adaptability," and recommended long-term psychotherapy. See Case Closed, p. 423. ** Modern 'smokeless powder' does not emit 'Puffs of Smoke' and hasn't since the advent of 'smokeless powder' many decades ago . Stone evidently didn't want the truth getting in the way of telling an 'interesting story'. Sad faces all around . *** Quote Prof. John McAdams who runs the number one web site in the world on the JFK Assassination and where most of this info. comes from : http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm **** Conspiracy literature postulates many different assassination scenario's : By inference if you cannot clearly articulate one particular scenario in a event , then promote several different mutually exclusive scenario's to replace the current scientifically accepted theory ***** , than a person has no other alternative but to assume that the prognosicators are peddling a multiplicity of non-sense to cause confusion in order to keep the case unsolved by way of perpetrating a 'JFK Assassination Tragedy Conspiracy Hoax' . ***** The Warren Report and HSCA concured that LHO bought the gun that fired the shots that killed JFK and he was most likely his assassin (All solid physical evidence stored at the National Archives confirms this) , the 'Lone Gunman Thesis and SBT' remain intact while conspiracists only offer a bewildering riot of misinformation and disinformation based upon taking the US Governments conclusions 'Out of Context'. tom lowry | Nov 11, 2009 5:09 am | 0 replies | View all | Post reply | Request removal

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