Enlisted women could serve on Navy subs

ST. MARYS, Ga. — Enlisted women could begin serving aboard submarines as early as 2016, depending on the interest female sailors have in serving on the boats.

Every enlisted woman in the Navy will be asked to participate in a survey this summer to determine how many would volunteer to serve aboard the vessels.

“The ability to attract, recruit and retain quality female sailors is essential to the success of integration. It will also be a big challenge,” Lt. Timothy Hawkins, spokesman for the task force, said in a statement.

Former national Navy League president Sheila McNeill, who now serves as president of Camden Partnership, says she isn’t surprised at the announcement, because of how well female officers have performed aboard submarines since the Navy lifted the ban in 2010.

“It certainly has been a success so far,” McNeill said. “There haven’t been any issues.”

Retired Navy Master Chief Royal Weaver of St. Marys says the integration of enlisted men and women as sailors will be done most easily on Ohio-class submarines, such as those ported at Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay, because they are the largest submarines in the Navy.

Kings Bay has eight Ohio-class submarines and a base at Bangor, Wash., has 10 of the boats. The boats are 570 feet long, with a crew of about 150.

Women are also expected to serve on the 55 fast-attack submarines, which are half the size of the Ohio-class and have nearly the same number of sailors.

To make it work on Ohio-class boats, Weaver says it is likely the sailors’ lounge, where they watch movies and play games, would be converted into a women’s bathroom and shower. Cubicles nearby could be designated as women’s quarters.

“Every time the Navy changes, there are sacrifices,” Weaver said. “I think there will be growing pains.”

Sailors aboard the submarines will have to do what they do on smaller fast-attack submarines, which is use the mess deck as a sailors’ lounge when meals are not being served.

“It provides one less area where they do training or watch movies,” Weaver said.

The close quarters where sailors are constantly bumping into each other— especially aboard fast-attack subs— could lead to sexual harassment accusations, even if there is no intent, he said.

Another challenge is where female chiefs would be berthed, since the quarters for those serving in the rank are already small. Weaver says it’s most likely that female chiefs would share the same living quarters as other enlisted women.

“It’s still going to be tough,” he said. “It will be a challenge, depending on how many women you have.”

But Weaver says he doesn’t think the living quarters will be an issue because some chiefs and officers on fast-attack subs are berthed with enlisted crew members.

The issue with female chiefs will likely be when they go on their first couple of deployments with no experience serving aboard a submarine and give orders to more experienced sailors, Weaver said.

“It’s going to be the knowledge issue that will create problems,” he said.

In the lower ranks, the concern will be inappropriate relationships between younger male and female sailors. Weaver says sailors with higher ranks will have to closely monitor how the younger men and women interact to make sure they don’t have inappropriate relationships.

Once the survey results come in, a task force will determine specifics about integrating women into the crews. They are expected to make a decision by early 2015.

McNeill says she believes it’s important to allow women to serve aboard submarines because it gives the Navy the ability to allow the most talented, intelligent women to serve aboard the vessels if they choose.

“I think the Navy has enough sense to take it easy,” McNeill said of allowing women to serve aboard the boats. “I have a feeling they are going to work it out.”

Talk to us

> Give us your news tips.

> Send us a letter to the editor.

> More Herald contact information.

More in Local News

Traffic idles while waiting for the lights to change along 33rd Avenue West on Tuesday, April 2, 2024 in Lynnwood, Washington. (Olivia Vanni / The Herald)
Lynnwood seeks solutions to Costco traffic boondoggle

Let’s take a look at the troublesome intersection of 33rd Avenue W and 30th Place W, as Lynnwood weighs options for better traffic flow.

A memorial with small gifts surrounded a utility pole with a photograph of Ariel Garcia at the corner of Alpine Drive and Vesper Drive ion Wednesday, April 10, 2024 in Everett, Washington. (Olivia Vanni / The Herald)
Death of Everett boy, 4, spurs questions over lack of Amber Alert

Local police and court authorities were reluctant to address some key questions, when asked by a Daily Herald reporter this week.

The new Amazon fulfillment center under construction along 172nd Street NE in Arlington, just south of Arlington Municipal Airport. (Chuck Taylor / The Herald) 20210708
Frito-Lay leases massive building at Marysville business park

The company will move next door to Tesla and occupy a 300,0000-square-foot building at the Marysville business park.

Logo for news use featuring the municipality of Snohomish in Snohomish County, Washington. 220118
1 dead in motorcycle crash on Highway 522 in Maltby

Authorities didn’t have any immediate details about the crash that fully blocked the highway Friday afternoon.

A memorial with small gifts surrounded a utility pole with a photograph of Ariel Garcia at the corner of Alpine Drive and Vesper Drive ion Wednesday, April 10, 2024 in Everett, Washington. (Olivia Vanni / The Herald)
Everett mom charged with first-degree murder in death of son, 4

On Friday, prosecutors charged Janet Garcia, 27, three weeks after Ariel Garcia went missing from an Everett apartment.

Dr. Mary Templeton (Photo provided by Lake Stevens School District)
Lake Stevens selects new school superintendent

Mary Templeton, who holds the top job in the Washougal School District, will take over from Ken Collins this summer.

A closed road at the Heather Lake Trail parking lot along the Mountain Loop Highway in Snohomish County, Washington on Wednesday, July 20, 2023. (Annie Barker / The Herald)
Mountain Loop Highway partially reopens Friday

Closed since December, part of the route to some of the region’s best hikes remains closed due to construction.

Emma Dilemma, a makeup artist and bikini barista for the last year and a half, serves a drink to a customer while dressed as Lily Munster Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2022, at XO Espresso on 41st Street in Everett, Washington. (Ryan Berry / The Herald)
After long legal battle, Everett rewrites bikini barista dress code

Employees now have to follow the same lewd conduct laws as everyone else, after a judge ruled the old dress code unconstitutional.

The oldest known meteor shower, Lyrid, will be falling across the skies in mid- to late April 2024. (Photo courtesy of Pixabay)
Clouds to dampen Lyrid meteor shower views in Western Washington

Forecasters expect a storm will obstruct peak viewing Sunday. Locals’ best chance at viewing could be on the coast. Or east.

AquaSox's Travis Kuhn and Emerald's Ryan Jensen an hour after the game between the two teams on Sunday continue standing in salute to the National Anthem at Funko Field on Sunday, Aug. 25, 2019 in Everett, Wash. (Olivia Vanni / The Herald)
New AquaSox stadium downtown could cost up to $120M

That’s $40 million more than an earlier estimate. Alternatively, remodeling Funko Field could cost nearly $70 million.

Downtown Everett, looking east-southeast. (Chuck Taylor / The Herald) 20191022
5 key takeaways from hearing on Everett property tax increase

Next week, City Council members will narrow down the levy rates they may put to voters on the August ballot.

Everett police officers on the scene of a single-vehicle collision on Evergreen Way and Olivia Park Road Wednesday, July 5, 2023 in Everett, Washington. (Photo provided by Everett Police Department)
Everett man gets 3 years for driving high on fentanyl, killing passenger

In July, Hunter Gidney crashed into a traffic pole on Evergreen Way. A passenger, Drew Hallam, died at the scene.

Support local journalism

If you value local news, make a gift now to support the trusted journalism you get in The Daily Herald. Donations processed in this system are not tax deductible.