New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie lived up to his pugilistic reputation in the sixth Republican debate, threatening to kick President Obama’s “rear” at one point, and rebuking Sen. Marco Rubio (Florida) for dodging a question with a blunt “You blew it.”
“I’d like to interrupt. I’d like to interrupt. I’d like to interrupt this debate on the floor of the Senate,” Christie quipped, as Rubio and Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) argued at length at Thursday night’s debate over the intricacies of their respective corporate tax proposals. He said they were trying to dodge a harder question on “entitlement” programs like Medicare and Social Security. “Do you remember that everybody? This is a question on entitlements.”
Rubio, who had tangled with Christie earlier in the evening, tried to interrupt. Christie dismissed him: “Nah. You’ve already your chance, Marco. You blew it.”
Christie also criticized Obama for allowing states to legalize marijuana, and for undermining American’s respect for police officers — an apparent reference to Obama’s reaction to the protests over shootings by police. Obama and his allies, Christie said, “give the benefit of the doubt to the criminal. Not to the police officer.”
Earlier, former Florida governor Jeb Bush was strongly critical of billionaire front-runner Donald Trump, calling his rival “unhinged” for his policies on immigration and misguided in his plans for high tariffs on Chinese imports.
“This would be devastating for our economy. We need somebody with a steady hand being president of the United States,” Bush said, after Trump said he would threaten large new tariffs on Chinese goods unless China took actions to make its trade with the U.S. more fair. Bush said it would lead to retaliatory actions by China, which would hurt U.S. exports there.
Trump responded with an attack on Bush’s personality.
“We don’t need a weak person being president of the United States,” Trump said, returning to an old insult that Bush is “low-energy.” “We don’t need that. We don’t need that.”
The crowd in North Charleston, South Carolina, booed — one of several times when they seemed to turn against the front-runner.
Questioning Trump’s proposal to bar Muslim foreigners from entering the United States, Bush said that it would alienate vital Muslim allies in the fight against the Islamic State.
“All Muslims? Seriously?” Bush said, in one of his strongest moments during six not-very-strong debates. “They are unhinged,” he said of Trump’s comments on the subject.
A moderator pointed out that Trump’s support had risen in South Carolina by eight points since then.
“Eleven points to be exact,” Trump interjected. He responded with a general statement of concern about Islamic terrorism: “There’s something going on, and it’s bad. We have to get to the bottom of it.”
The exchange came after Trump had rebuked rival Cruz for talking negatively about “New York values,” offering a tribute to the city’s response to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
“When the World Trade Center came down, I saw something that no place on Earth could have handled more beautifully, more humanely than New York,” Trump said. He continued: “The people in new York fought and fought and fought, and we saw more death, and even the smell of death. Nobody understood it. And it was with us for months, the smell in the air.
That followed an attack by Cruz in which he said that “New York values” were socially liberal, and tied to money and the media. He said that Trump was representative of those values, and therefore not aligned with the values of early-voting states such as South Carolina, where the debate was held.
“I have to tell you, that was a very insulting statement that Ted made,” Trump said.
It was the second time in this debate that Cruz and Trump — who had once had an unofficial alliance, but now are rivals — had tangled, with Trump having the last word. Earlier in the debate, the two had argued about whether Cruz was even eligible to run for president, since he was born in Canada to an American mother. That led to a long exchange that allowed Trump to restate the point again and again.
In the shadow of those two, a pair of lower-polling rivals — Christie and Rubio — each tried to cast the other as too liberal and too friendly to Obama’s priorities. Christie, in particular, responded with some unusually tough words for Obama himself.
“This guy is a petulant child,” Christie said, when asked about Obama’s efforts to circumvent Congress with executive actions to expand background checks on gun purchases. Christie then said he hoped that Obama was watching: “We are going to kick your rear end out of the White House come this fall!”
Unless Christie knows something everybody else doesn’t, Obama is not running in the election this fall. He is scheduled to leave office in January, when a new president takes office.
During the exchange about Cruz’s citizenship, Trump told Cruz that “there’s a big question mark on your head, and you can’t do that to the party.”
“Who the hell knows if you can run for office?” Trump added.
The exchange took several minutes, and also demonstrated the danger — even for a skillful debater like Cruz — of tangling with Trump, a trained master of reality TV. It began with a question for Cruz, who was born in Canada to an American mother, about whether he fit the Constitution’s definition of a “natural born” American citizen, and was eligible to run for president. He said that Trump had dismissed the idea earlier in the race but now was suddenly concerned.
“The Constitution hasn’t changed. But the poll numbers have. And I recognize that Donald is dismayed that his poll numbers are falling,” Cruz said.
That set off a long exchange in which Trump admitted he had, indeed, become more concerned because of Cruz’s rise in the polls. “Because now he’s doing a little bit better. You know, I didn’t care before,” Trump said, although he also reminded Cruz that he was still ahead in the polls. “He’s got probably a four or five percent chance” of winning the race. Trump imagined a scenario in which Trump himself might choose Cruz as a running mate, “And the Democrats sue because we can’t take him along for the ride. I don’t like that.”
“I’m not going to be taking legal advice from Donald Trump,” Cruz, a Harvard Law graduate and former Supreme Court clerk, responded. Cruz said that maybe he would make Trump a vice president, which means he could benefit if Cruz was disqualified: “You can get the top job at the end of the day.”
Eventually, Rubio butted in. “I hate to interrupt this episode of Court TV.”
Earlier in the debate, Trump called Syrian refugees a “Trojan horse” that brought terrorist sympathizers into the U.S.
“It’s reality. You just have to look today at Indonesia. Bombings all over. You look at California. You look, frankly, at Paris,” Trump said when asked about a refugee that President Obama had invited as his guest to the State of the Union. Trump said that refugee’s sympathetic story was not typical: “That’s not representative of what you have in that line of migration. That could be the great Trojan horse.”
Trump has said that he wants a temporary ban on all Muslim foreigners seeking to enter the U.S., and a wall to keep out undocumented immigrants along the border with Mexico. He did not appear to have changed that tactic: “We can’t let all these people come into our country and break our borders. We can’t do it.”
Later in the debate, broadcast on Fox Business Network, Cruz was asked about a New York Times report that he had failed to disclose loans made to him by Citibank and Goldman Sachs with election officials, while he ran for the Senate from Texas in 2012. Cruz later disclosed the information with Senate authorities. He rejected it as a “hit piece.”
“Yes, I made a paperwork error, disclosing it on one piece of paper instead of the other. But if that’s the best that the New York Times has got, they’d better go back to the well,” Cruz said.
Cruz began the night by criticizing Obama for failing to mention the 10 U.S. sailors who were seized – and later released – by Iranian forces in the Persian Gulf, calling it evidence of Obama’s weakness.
“We were horrified to see the sight of 10 American sailors on their knees with their hands on their head. In that state of the union, President Obama didn’t so much as mention those 10 sailors,” Cruz said, ignoring – for the moment – the fact that he had actually been asked about jobs. “It was heartbreaking. But the good news is the next commander in chief is standing on this stage.”
The sailors were later released by Iran, and the Pentagon said Thursday that they had entered Iranian territorial waters by mistake after a navigational error. But Cruz said that the sailors’ treatment — including the release of footage that showed them with hands on their heads as they were taken into custody — would have drawn a sharper response from a President Cruz. “Any nation that captures our fighting men will feel the full force and fury of the United States of America,” Cruz said.
Later, Christie criticized Obama for underplaying the threats to the U.S.: “I watched storytime with Barack Obama.”
The main debate, which began at 9 p.m., was preceded by an “undercard” debate among former tech executive Carly Fiorina, former senator Rick Santorum (Pennsylvania) and former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee.
In the earlier debate, the trio of long-shot candidates offered gloomy visions of the country’s path, all hoping that they might get a ticket to the top tier of the race with just a few weeks remaining until the first votes.
Fox Business Network hosted both debates.
Viewers of the main event will see a race that has split into two bitter mini-battles. One is between Iowa front-runners Trump and Cruz, whose old truce unraveled into insult-trading this week.
The other battle is between everybody else: a universe of candidates hovering in the single digits or low teens, all focused on taking one another out.
That group — highly accomplished, great-on-paper candidates such as Ohio Gov. John Kasich, Christie, Rubio and Bush — are all relying on some variant of the same strategy: Survive long enough for voters to come to their senses.
Trump had continued to bring up Cruz’s eligibility on the campaign trail this week, but he had said in an interview with CNN’s Erin Burnett on Wednesday that he will not bring the issue up at the debate. It came up anyway.
Cruz, in the past, had seemed reluctant to attack Trump — perhaps hoping that he would inherit Trump’s anti-establishment coalition if Trump himself faded. Now, the Texas Republican seems to have given up on that – or perhaps he is trying to hasten Trump’s fade a bit faster.
“The Donald seems to be a little bit rattled,” he said on WRKO in Boston.
In recent days, for example, Cruz took direct aim at Trump on several fronts: tying the billionaire to Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton, questioning his ability to win a general election and casting doubt on his ability to serve as commander in chief.
Cruz also took aim at Trump’s competence. “Does a potential commander in chief know what the nuclear triad is, much less is he or she prepared and able to strengthen it and keep this country safe?” Cruz asked on “The Hugh Hewitt Show.”
In a Republican debate last month, Trump was asked about the nuclear triad – the submarines, bombers and land-based missiles that could deliver the nation’s nuclear weapons – and had trouble with the explanation.
For Cruz, the risk is that he will provoke Trump’s gift for insults: The billionaire has managed to isolate his rivals’ weaknesses and call them out in a way that sticks.
During a campaign rally in Pensacola, Florida, on Wednesday night, Trump bragged that rivals who have attacked him in the past have seen their poll numbers tank, sometimes to the point of being pushed out of the race.
“Now, we have another debate tomorrow. They’ll all be attacking me – like, you know, they attack. Whatever. Right? Whatever. What-ever,” Trump said, pursing his lips and shaking his head, as some in the crowd started chanting: “We want Trump! We want Trump!”
“They attack,” Trump said, “but they don’t understand that unlike this country, I attack back.”
Thursday’s main-event debate will be the smallest of this crowded campaign so far: just seven candidates onstage, down from the high of 11 during a debate in September.
Sen. Rand Paul (Kentucky), the libertarian-leaning candidate who battled with Rubio and Christie over their hawkish foreign policies, is sitting this one out. Paul’s polling numbers were so low he was relegated to the undercard debate. He then refused to show up at all, saying he was not running an undercard kind of campaign. He also has asked Fox to reconsider and put him on the main stage.
Of the others on the main stage, the candidate under the most attack might be Rubio, who has tried to run in both the outsider and insider “lanes” of this campaign and angered the candidates in both.
Christie, in particular, has portrayed Rubio as a truant schoolboy because of Rubio’s frequent absences during Senate votes.
Rubio, who tends to counterpunch with policy criticisms, has said Christie’s record on guns, education and Planned Parenthood doesn’t align with modern conservatives.
Kasich has shown surprisingly good results in New Hampshire lately, raising his hopes that he will be the “establishment” candidate who survives to take on Trump and Cruz.
Now, his job will be to improve upon past debate performances, in which Kasich often seemed peevish or too aggressive. After a November debate, when the Ohio governor repeatedly jumped in to answer or interject thoughts about other candidates’ questions, a focus group convened by Frank Luntz gave him one of the lowest scores the Republican strategist had ever seen.
“Look, I don’t know what I’m going to do tomorrow,” Kasich said Wednesday. “I will tell you that we’re second in New Hampshire and doing very well.”
After taking (and dodging) a few more questions about what might come up, Kasich grinned and commented on the very process of politics.
“Most people, they get kind of loose and have fun once they lose, and everybody asks: Why didn’t they have fun before they lost?” he said. “I’m having fun right now.”
Then there is Bush: once this race’s front-runner, now one of its longer shots.
Once again, he is hoping for a debate performance that will reset the race. That has not gone well in the past: In a previous debate where Bush badly wanted a breakout, he picked a fight over Rubio’s voting and attendance record in the Senate and provoked a damaging verbal takedown.
This time, Bush seems determined not to overthink it.
He may be overthinking it anyway.
“We don’t have really much of a strategy. It’s just stop thinking of it as a debate. Don’t call it a debate – that gets me thinking the wrong way,” Bush said in Iowa this week. “It’s a performance, it’s a chance for me to express my views about things that I think are important for our country. There may be some comparin’ and contrastin’ – I’ve noticed that since January started that the fur is starting to fly, that people are starting to go after each other a bit.”
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